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Drivers grumble, naturally, over NYC's new cabs

msnbc -- Like most New York taxi drivers, Hakan Karakas has a ready opinion on everything – especially when you ask him about the “Taxi of Tomorrow.”

“It’s like the communists have taken over,” he laments. “This is a free market, and I should be able to choose what I drive.”

But the fact is Hakkan and the rest of the Big Apple’s independent and fleet taxi owners won’t have a choice. This week they’re getting a first look at the vehicles that will replace the aging Ford Crown Victoria sedans that have long served as the majority of New York’s yellow cabs.


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Submitted Apr 06, 2012 By: Cakes77
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ObieDog
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 3:59:46 PM

Cranky drivers and cranky posters today.
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 3:37:17 PM

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No, not in NYC, they would NEVER complain, no way!
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:)
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 9:48:24 PM

will they skip NYC when they need an exciting yellow cab chase scene?
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PurplepassionNC
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:01:08 PM

Maybe this new taxi will slow down the dreaded wild speed demons taxis drivers in New York. NY cabbie all give you the impression that you may lose your life if you make a move around them.
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apiergallini
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 4:43:03 PM

@johntxx

Well, I'm glad we at least agree that this isn't communism. But the defintion for socialism is very similar to the one for communism The current administration is neither. That notwithstanding, again, this is an NYC issue, not an administration issue. And the NYC issue is also neither communism nor socialism.

States have the authority to regulate activities within their borders, including the licensing, certifying, and regulating of the taxi industry. Likewise with cities within their borders. Both, of course, subject to the state and federal constitutions. You may not like what NYC has done here, but the city is within its power to do so.

Not that there's anything wrong with posting a link to an opinion piece within the discussions on here (as long as it's not the main article), but it's still just an opinion piece. Blumenfeld's speculation about how Soros and Obama came to interact with each other is just that - speculation. Sure, Soros "may" have liked Obama for the reasons Blumenfeld said, but it could have been any of a number of reasons. And Obama, once President, really doesn't have to do what Soros wants, or what anyone else wants, for that matter.

Regarding your video, that healthcare isn't specifically mentioned in the Constitution does not mean that Congress doesn't have the power to regulate it. It's within the commerce clause, as well as in the preamble, which says, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." (emphasis added). So, regardless or your thoughts on the commerce clause, it's hard to argue that healthcare doesn't fall within the general welfare of our citizenry.

I agree with both you and Judge Napolitano that the government has overstepped its bounds in some cases, the Patriot Act being one of them. However, overstepping its bounds in one instance does not imply that it is doing so in other instances, and certainly not that it is doing so in every instance.

Lastly, if you're going to "point out the degradation our country has suffered with Obama at the helm" by mentioning things that have come to be during his administration over which he has no control, then you ought to also give him credit for every single thing you like which happened during his administration, regardless of whether he had any control over it, as well. You can't, on one hand, blame him for everything under the sun for the last 3.5 years, but, on the other hand, only give him credit for those things over which he had direct control. You either limit yourself, in both cases, only to things over which he had control, or you include, in both cases, things over which he had no control. You don't get to pick and choose.

[Edited by: apiergallini at 4/6/2012 5:45:57 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 3:55:21 PM

apiergallini, technically you are correct, we do not have a communist in the White House. He is a socialist. There is a difference, though neither philosophy aligns with our Constitution.

"Soros may have read the book and decided then and there that Obama could be the next president. He was young, ambitious, a socialist, and an empty suit who could be easily controlled by a powerful enormously wealthy patron." excerpt from Obama & Soros: Puppet & Puppeteer

Now as to your comment, "This is not communism, it's government regulation, and well within the purview of government regulate." The Constitution does state that "The Congress shall have the Power ... To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;" however, they have overstepped their bounds. Listen to Judge Napolitano

Agreed, this is the city of NY, not our national government, but I'm taking every opportunity I can to point out the degradation our country has suffered with Obama at the helm. And I Hope and pray that there will be a Change in the White House after November. ABO



[Edited by: johntxx at 4/6/2012 4:57:49 PM EST]
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apiergallini
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@GetMaxCashBack

EVs sound even better for people who have a defined distance they need to travel. It's like a FedEx delivery guy is unexpectedly going to have to travel out-of-state, unlike, say, you or me. If their routes are divided up properly, everyone should have enough range on the vehicle to do the full route, and get back to the office, with miles to spare. Hybrids, in that scenario, seem unnecessarily complicated and expensive for what they're needed to do.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 1:58:02 PM

I still don't know why they don't use hybrids for vehicles that are primarily in stop & go traffic.
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apiergallini
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 12:52:25 PM

@johntxx

Really? Get over it. This was something passed by the city - it had nothing to do with who sits in the Oval Office. Just because you don't like or agree with a policy somewhere does NOT make it communism. Stop misusing the term.

In fact, communism is an economic theory wherein private property does not exist - everything is owned by the state, and all have use of it. It has the same root as community - everything is owned by the community, not individuals or corporations. This is not communism, it's government regulation, and well within the purview of government regulate.
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Report abuse!

This article has zip zero nada to do with this site.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 12:14:41 PM

Sounds great. New York City taxis certainly don't need V-8 engines.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 9:47:34 AM

they grumble over anything.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 9:40:15 AM

And was anyone expecting sunshine and light comments from New York cab drivers?
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 8:54:49 AM

They should have made them run on natural gas.

Oh yeah, if they did that, the looming gasoline shortage would no be so bad.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 8:37:19 AM

lol
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Alot about nothing
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:57:30 AM

“It’s like the communists have taken over,” he laments. “This is a free market, and I should be able to choose what I drive.”

They have. We've currently got one in the White House. They do regulate everything from the air you breath to the amount of water that comes out of your shower.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:48:24 AM

Thanks for your nice comments folks on this article. Keep them coming!
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It is NY.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:17:26 AM

Doesn't matter what they drive, it is still a demolition derby in Manhattan. I wonder if the new taxis come with head restraints for passengers due to the hard breaking, hard accelerating and rapid lane changes?
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:14:23 AM

In the story I read, the only main complaint was were they going to provide handicap ramps.
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change = comunism, come on....you are nuts!
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Joeski1, Nice! ;)

The Nissan seems OK. I would have thought they would consider the Transit Connect as well.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:06:35 AM

So what!!
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:05:58 AM

Change is good, but some change might be too good for some.

Then again, no change might not be good either.

Good change is always good, right?!

Oooh, change the subject and move on.
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Who cares?
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It's always hard to change!
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 6:51:07 AM

when they went from the checker cabs to the crown vics they bitched too...

new yorkers usually bitch about everything except their ball teams...
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 6:50:31 AM

So what?
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 6:49:43 AM

Change is never easy. It seems to me there will be more money to be made by taxi companies, more people can fit into a "cab" now.
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