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Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2011 5:51:54 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse Looks like Verizon has pwned AT&T with its $30 unlimited iphone data plan. Well at least temporarily , Verizon later in the day backed off and said the $30 plan will last only until some vague point in the future, then back to tiered pricing. Hmmm. You gotta say one thing about Big Red, they are consistently greedy. . . Those who are getting a Verizon iphone best do so during the first wave if they want the unlimited data plan. The iphone is a datawhore and a tiered plan will drive an iphone owner bankrupt. . . Its worth it to take the ETF hit from AT&T and drop that substandard carrier to upgrade to Verizon. When the 4G iphone comes out (soon) you'll already be in place, plus, as a side effect, you'll be able to make an undropped phone call.

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Looks like Verizon has pwned AT&T with its $30 unlimited iphone data plan. Well at least temporarily , Verizon later in the day backed off and said the $30 plan will last only until some vague point in the future, then back to tiered pricing. Hmmm. You gotta say one thing about Big Red, they are consistently greedy.
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Those who are getting a Verizon iphone best do so during the first wave if they want the unlimited data plan. The iphone is a datawhore and a tiered plan will drive an iphone owner bankrupt.
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Its worth it to take the ETF hit from AT&T and drop that substandard carrier to upgrade to Verizon. When the 4G iphone comes out (soon) you'll already be in place, plus, as a side effect, you'll be able to make an undropped phone call.

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sks1586 All-Star Author New Jersey Posts:575 Points:47,160 Joined:Mar 2013	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 3:46:14 AM Ignore sks1586 Report Abuse irrelevant for me
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2011 3:19:43 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse Got my first bill with tethering implemented. When you go with the tethering option, the non-tethered data rate goes to $20 unlimited and the first 2 GB of tethered data is also $20. That should work for what I intend to do with it, reading E-mail on vacation.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2011 7:04:14 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse I'm hitting 2 maybe 3 gigs a month. (for some reason I hit 4 gigs in May). No tethering anymore though. I just use the phone directly, not hooking it to the laptop anymore. My carrier has unlimited data, but there are rumors of a 'soft cap' of 5 gigs on the message boards. Some people go way over, hitting 10/12 gigs with no letter from the carrier telling them to cut it out. So might just be a rumor.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2011 9:17:42 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Jul 22, 2011 1:57:08 PM, I wrote: >My Verizon iPhone apparently will do a mobile hotspot but I have >not tried it. I tried it. It lends itself to datawhore potential. I was testing it out and racked up 136 MB of data. Only 93 MB of non-tethered data so far and I'm roughly a third of the way through my first full month.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 26, 2011 3:35:49 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Jan 25, 2011 5:51:54 PM, Hemond wrote: >The iphone is a datawhore and a tiered plan will drive an iphone >owner bankrupt. No, Mr. Hemond, the iPad is a datawhore. And even with the way I use it (long lunches in places that are dead to WiFi), I hit the 30 days before I hit the 2 GB. Not doing bandwidth-hogging Flash animation will do that for you. In comparison, the iPhone is a giggly tween that blushes when her Daddy comments about her wearing tarted-up clothing that looks like it came from Victoria's Secret. [Edited by: Sneakers55 at 7/26/2011 4:36:55 PM EST]
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 22, 2011 1:57:08 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse My Verizon iPhone apparently will do a mobile hotspot but I have not tried it. So, I can use it to get E-mail and such on the Farm in Missouri using the MacBook Pro. They're close enough to Kansas City that the AT&T 3G will work, at least it did on the "not as reliable on data as the iPad" Samsung. It will switch to EDGE but iPad on EDGE is about as pleasant as having your teeth cleaned.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 22, 2011 1:42:36 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse AT&T called very perplexed that I would change to Verizon. So far, it works on the living room sofa and in the restroom of the local Mexican restaurant where I had my lunch. Two AT&T dead spots. AT&T had me for quite a while. My number has been ported around quite a bit. It was originally picked up with Sprint, then ported to AT&T, then finally to Verizon. I don't think there's anywhere else left to go unless I go with one of the regional cheapies that don't work on the road.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 7, 2011 3:20:55 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse <<<<Well folks, looks like T pwned Big Red! Two slow GB for $30 vs. two fast GB for $25.>>> . . .. err, I'm afraid you're a little late to the party. This thread is 6 months old. I'm afraid you missed out on the unlimited plan. Verizon finally closed it down on July 5th. It was clearly announced as 'temporary', and temporary it was. Anyone interested in it signed up long ago. Nothing lasts forever. And in tech, nothing lasts 6 months. . AFAIK your only option for an inexpensive unlimited plan (for the moment) is on Sprint or Walmart. They will have to pry my $40 unlimited everything plan out of my dead hands, heyheyhey.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 7, 2011 8:59:22 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Well, I'm grandfathered in to unlimited for $30! Goodie for me!
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 7, 2011 6:57:53 AM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse Well folks, looks like T pwned Big Red! Two slow GB for $30 vs. two fast GB for $25.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2011 11:18:39 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse <<<<Verizon network for iPhone not as good as ATT, at least today. Verizon using old CDMA network, not 4G LTE technology. Wold have required too many changes to firmware, from what I understand to utilze 4G LTE. iPhone 5 will be much better for Verizon.>>>> . . What are you talking about? Verizon has several 4G LTE phones, the Revolution, the Droid and the Thunderbolt. . . 4G is mature technology now and has been out for a long time on all the carriers (except that antique AT&T that is)
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2011 6:03:46 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Verizon is changing this! $30 for up to 2gb starting sometime this month and tiered rates for more gb. Those who already have the $30 unlimited data plan for their smart phones are grandfathered in.
planoiceman Champion Author Dallas Posts:3,278 Points:477,070 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2011 4:32:26 PM Ignore planoiceman Report Abuse Verizon network for iPhone not as good as ATT, at least today. Verizon using old CDMA network, not 4G LTE technology. Wold have required too many changes to firmware, from what I understand to utilze 4G LTE. iPhone 5 will be much better for Verizon.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 6, 2011 10:23:24 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse <<<<Hemond, using a Bluetooth has to do with the fact that it is difficult to talk and surf when the phone is next to your face. I guess you could use speaker phone for all calls.>>> . . No one is arguing that. What you said was "I use a Bluetooth and almost always talk and surf. I haven't had a dropped call in a long time." . . BT has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with one's connection. That is dependent on the carrier. BT is a short distance radio to connect devices like earphones. It operates over a few feet of distance. BT is not cellular. . . And count yourself lucky if you haven't had a dropped call on AT&T. They are notorious for poor signal/poor reception/dropped calls. The legions of complaints all over the 'net AWA the army of defectors to Verizon attest to that.
MrRRFIV Rookie Author Virginia Beach Posts:22 Points:193,145 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 28, 2011 4:46:57 PM Ignore MrRRFIV Report Abuse We got the 29.99 unlimited data plan when we upgraded to iPhone4's about two weeks ago. There are so many good things to say about it, but Verizon still will not allow data and phone calls simultaneously. MapQuest will continue to run in the background, mind you; however, you certainly can't open Safari and connect to anything. BTW, I haven't made a call without BT in almost 6 years; it makes no difference on Verizon's network as far as simultaneous data/voice, even though it is very convenient.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2011 10:52:30 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse "What does BT have to do with one's ability to maintain a connection? That's determined by the carrier." Huh?? How did you determine the poster was referring to maintaining a connection using BT?
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,924 Points:616,745 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2011 9:14:03 AM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse Hemond, using a Bluetooth has to do with the fact that it is difficult to talk and surf when the phone is next to your face. I guess you could use speaker phone for all calls. One of the reasons that many do not talk and surf is that they don't know that they can or aren't using a BT device. When I get a call asking for directions, I'm able to guide them just fine using Mapquest. When I am using my iPhone for GPS in the car in its cradle and I get a phone call, the GPS directions continue without me having to give up one or the other. I've purchased movie tickets while on the phone, made dinner reservations while talking to the person meeting me there and tons more uses for surfing while talking. How about hold time? No use being bored. I might post a message on Gas Buddy while on the phone. Conference calls? I love them, I'll be answering emails while chatting away. You can even watch a streaming movie while on the phone. You won't be doing that on a Verizon iPhone any time soon. We drove to WDW recently. For almost the whole trip my daughter was watching Netflix, it worked perfectly. Both my iPad and iPhone have the grandfathered unlimited data plans. I plan to keep those plans for as long as I can. [Edited by: Bell30012 at 4/1/2011 10:14:44 AM EST]
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2011 9:02:31 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse <<<< I use a Bluetooth and almost always talk and surf.>>> . . What does BT have to do with one's ability to maintain a connection? That's determined by the carrier. As for talk and surfing, that might be your need but hardly everyone.In fact you are probably a minority. Some people just use voice, others (teens) just message, others like myself strictly use data, no messaging and almost no voice.
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,379 Points:4,122,655 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2011 9:01:14 AM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse AT&T has never given me a problem, for any of the phones I owned preceding the iPhone, or any of the various models of iPhones I've owned. Nor have any of my family members who "inherit" my old iPhones ever had any issues. And for the better part of the past year, my iPad has been trouble-free as well. I still remember the time I drove to Las Vegas, talking by phone to my best friend the entire way.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2011 9:00:35 PM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Ya gotta remember! Hemond is always correct! And if AT&T's service sucks in his area, it sucks everywhere!
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,924 Points:616,745 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2011 7:43:22 PM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse Hemond, maybe where you live AT&T can't maintain a good connection, mine is fine. I use a Bluetooth and almost always talk and surf. I haven't had a dropped call in a long time.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2011 7:17:37 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse Well, since AT&T can't maintain a decent connection I guess talking and surfing is an exercise in willful determination. I'll stick with my grandfathered $40 unlimited everything plan and not worry about data/minutes/messages/GPS/traffic or getting knocked off constantly.
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,924 Points:616,745 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2011 6:27:56 PM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse However, since Verizon can't surf and talk I guess you really won't need that unlimited data plan. I'll stick with my AT&T iPhone which is grandfathered and my grandfathered unlimited iPad plan as well.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2011 5:36:25 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Let me rephrase - I could not find yo as any form of year old.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2011 4:23:58 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Really? I always thought yo was ghetto slang for you. Actually, I looked it up and nowhere is you referred to as any form of old.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 24, 2011 5:13:10 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse <<<<Give 'em a couple of years and they'd rather go to Niketown. Besides, Time Warner has nearly all the good characters. Tell me how many 10 yo kids stay 10 yo. Besides, when I was 10 yo Nike did not even exist.>>> . .. . Well, thats all well and good , yet does not really relate to my premise , which is to ask a 10yo kid where he'd rather go, Disney World or Nike headquarters. A 10yo will relate instantly to Disney World and I'm going to guess that same 10yo would prefer to go there than to Nike.
aowjrop Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:30,001 Points:1,200,080 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Feb 24, 2011 3:54:46 PM Ignore aowjrop Report Abuse scoutmaster. OK, I'll relent. "10 yo" is cub scout age, but not yet boy scout age. "yo" is a small letter acronym for years old within a context relating to age.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 24, 2011 3:47:50 PM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse What's a 10 yo?
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 24, 2011 1:16:39 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Feb 16, 2011 6:55:46 PM, Hemond quoted a wise mind, then wrote: <<<<They really should be given NKE instead.>>> >Ask any 10 yo where they would rather go - Disney World or Nike headquarters. Give 'em a couple of years and they'd rather go to Niketown. Besides, Time Warner has nearly all the good characters. >Tell me which has more relevance to a 10 yo kid. Tell me how many 10 yo kids stay 10 yo. Besides, when I was 10 yo Nike did not even exist.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2011 8:46:42 PM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Downloading Avatar on your cell phone? Why?
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2011 12:31:10 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse The new policy on throttling as detailed first by Gizmodo is... . . Verizon claims 5% of smartphone users are 'heavy' users. These are the folks dl'ing movies, Youtubes and especially the ones who are tethering. Those who exceed whatever is 'heavy' will have their dl speed cut back for the remainder of the current month as well as the next month. . . So, notwithstanding how an 'unlimited' plan can be limited, what does this mean? . . I'm gonna say if you dl, lets say, 10 gigs a month, V is probably not going to give you a hard time. If you are hitting the 50 gig level, V is probably going to flag you. . . A casual user who is just looking at web pages will be hard pressed to even hit the 2 Gig threshold. If you are in addition looking at a bunch of Youtubes, you are probably still going to be ok. . . If you start dl'ing copies of Avatar daily then you may have a problem. Also if you intend to tether, you open yourself up to heavy usage. . . On my carrier (not V) we have unlimited web with an unstated soft cap of 5 Gigs. People on my carrier's forum routinely report hitting 10 to 12 gigs with no notice of exceeding the cap. Since going to a smartphone, I hit maybe 5 to 7 Gigs at most. That includes tethering (although I keep, images/vids/Flash blocked while tethering to keep usage down)
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,379 Points:4,122,655 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2011 9:02:34 AM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse I have the unlimited plan... with AT&T.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2011 7:13:04 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse I got the unlimited plan.
Grateful11 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,142 Points:734,070 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2011 8:06:54 PM Ignore Grateful11 Report Abuse I got unlimited plan which all that's available right now, the girl at the Verizon store said it was going to stay unlimited. I had heard was was going to temporary. It did hear they are going to throttle back on your speed if you're a huge power user of 3G.
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,379 Points:4,122,655 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Feb 17, 2011 11:20:31 AM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse >> What is a 10 yo? Wasn't that something that Rocky said? "Yo Adrian!"
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 17, 2011 4:21:16 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse aowjrop, when I signed up for this site I was. Why do you ask?
aowjrop Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:30,001 Points:1,200,080 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Feb 17, 2011 4:08:00 AM Ignore aowjrop Report Abuse scoutmaster: "10 yo? What is a 10 yo?" ??huh!? Are you REALLY a scoutmaster!?
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 16, 2011 7:35:26 PM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse 10 yo? What is a 10 yo?
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 16, 2011 6:55:46 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse <<<<They really should be given NKE instead.>>> . . Ask any 10 yo where they would rather go - Disney World or Nike headquarters. Tell me which has more relevance to a 10 yo kid.
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,379 Points:4,122,655 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Feb 16, 2011 5:41:51 PM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse >> Adidas Group has about as much market penetration as MacOS Hey, now I know why I prefer Adidas!
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 16, 2011 1:24:58 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Feb 3, 2011 10:12:23 PM, Hemond wrote: >The first stock most of us ever owned , probably received as schoolboys for a gift, was T. Well, my two nephews each got a share of IBM as a college gift from me. The original tech stock. >(although today's schoolboys are more likely to receive DIS) They really should be given NKE instead. Nike has a higher penetration rate in the basketball shoe market than Microsoft has in the desktop operating system market. Nike has three brands out there (Converse, Jordan, and Nike). Adidas Group has about as much market penetration as MacOS (not the biggest seller, but they aren't going to disappear any time soon) while all the others have tiny market share.
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,379 Points:4,122,655 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Feb 13, 2011 3:32:38 PM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse >> On the other hand, if it's like an iPad, you install iTunes on your PC, and follow >> the very easy screen prompts. Or just activate at the store – no pc needed.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 13, 2011 1:56:03 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Feb 11, 2011 8:28:11 AM, dakine wrote: >Sneakers, isn't that what you want to do? Sell to more users, to drive >more usage to generate more revenue. That equates to happier >shareholders. I'm not sure at all that I want any device that may need after-sales support from Wal-Mart. Much less pre-sales support. On the other hand, if it's like an iPad, you install iTunes on your PC (if it's your first Apple device) and follow the very easy screen prompts. There are some sales channels out there that (IMHO) will not benefit your product. Among them are Wal-Mart (yes, I shop there; no, I do not find it a particularly pleasant experience).
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,175 Points:133,425 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2011 11:48:17 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse <<<Verizon is looking for sheer numbers: the Verizon iPhone will be available at Wal-Mart. >>> . . It will fit nicely right next to the ipod, the nano, and all the Apple brand accessories. Why not make your product easily available and accessible? What's wrong with that? Seems like a highly visible Apple display in a high traffic store will only boost sales. Certainly can't hurt.
dakine Champion Author Orange County Posts:19,587 Points:3,589,925 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2011 8:28:11 AM Ignore dakine Report Abuse Sneakers, isn't that what you want to do? Sell to more users, to drive more usage to generate more revenue. That equates to happier shareholders.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2011 2:17:08 AM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Feb 5, 2011 8:53:58 AM, dakine wrote: >Well it sounds like the pre-sale was a success for Verizon. They sold out >the same day on the iPhone 4. Lots of pent up demand. Verizon is looking for sheer numbers: the Verizon iPhone will be available at Wal-Mart.
dakine Champion Author Orange County Posts:19,587 Points:3,589,925 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2011 8:53:58 AM Ignore dakine Report Abuse Well it sounds like the pre-sale was a success for Verizon. They sold out the same day on the iPhone 4. Lots of pent up demand.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,280 Points:2,142,820 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2011 11:51:53 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Feb 4, 2011 9:15:40 AM, bytebug wrote: >First stock I ever owned was Lockheed, as part of the employee >savings plan when I worked for them. Not 100% sure what my first stock was, I had Texaco (now Chevron) and Central and Southwest (now American Electric Power) fairly early on. The first stock I had in a brokerage account was Quest Diagnostics in 2004. My mdoc had me going to LabCorp when she suddenly switched me to Quest instead. It's bad when you go in and say "I've had you before, you're the big curly-headed guy who owns stock in the company!"
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,379 Points:4,122,655 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2011 9:15:40 AM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse First stock I ever owned was Lockheed, as part of the employees savings plan when I worked for them.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,249 Points:3,252,645 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2011 5:50:06 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse The 1st stock I received was IBM.