drpepperTX

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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 10:00:04 AM
wamster, sounds like you're still alive and kickin'!
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wamster

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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 9:18:59 AM
Not too long after the spill; commercials touting how the spill hadn't reached the oyster beds abounded. The commercial stated with the cold weather, it was the best oyster season in years.
The oysters were delicious, and now I'm wondering how much poison did I ingest.
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Amplion

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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 2:34:37 AM
BOYCOTT ARCO/CASTROL/BP
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drpepperTX

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 8:13:58 PM
A little oyster fact here. A single oyster can filter algae, plankton and pollution out of 50 gallons of water a day!
Amazing little critters of nature huh?
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drpepperTX

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 8:07:29 PM
"Yep, there does seem to be many cards missing from your deck. No one denies that nature can eventually reconcile conflicts in the environment. However, intelligent people hope to avoid killing off humans before nature has the opportunity to recover from the damage humans create." ============== Thanks PDQ! I got a real chuckle out of that! I think judgements of intelligence are best left up to the intelligent!
Did you figure out which party held the Senate majority in the first two years of Bush's first term or are you still struggling with that? ;=}
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PDQBlues

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 7:54:02 PM
A not-so very happy anniversary.
drpepperTX: I reckon there are a few like NHLivefree that are in denial that nature is by design able to cope with disaster, man made or natural.
Yep, there does seem to be many cards missing from your deck. No one denies that nature can eventually reconcile conflicts in the environment. However, intelligent people hope to avoid killing off humans before nature has the opportunity to recover from the damage humans create.
[Edited by: PDQBlues at 4/22/2012 8:54:23 PM EST]
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drpepperTX

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 6:47:14 PM
Good one skydriver! :=)
Good sense of humor!!!
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07skydriver

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 5:21:32 PM
About the oyster problems, BP officials have decided to clam up
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feistyfella

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 10:51:40 AM
Oysters are just doing their jobs. I'm more surprised that the oyster problem is news today as it was obvious that oysters, shrimp and the like would be effected from the initial "disaster". The bigger disaster wasn't the BP explosion, it was how long it took potus to put his foot down on those bunch of weasels from across the pond.
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drpepperTX

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 10:18:35 AM
I reckon there are a few like NHLivefree that are in denial that nature is by design able to cope with disaster, man made or natural. Gee that makes sense. Deny the science showing that oil has been naturally leaking into the Gulf at the rate of over a million barrels per year for eons and oysters have been coping with that fact for eons. Deny as well that nature has survived countless 'disasters' such as floods, fire, earthquakes, volcanoes, ice ages, heat waves, etc. reality obviously has no basis in some thought processes!
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tjc09f

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 8:57:43 AM
That's awful
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YaBassa

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 7:43:52 AM
BP's oil spill effects will be lasting. With a little oil on the face and a slap on the wrist, BP will continue.
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JCI46009IN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 7:23:14 AM
The next 4 months are not oyster eating months anyway...........(no "R" in them)
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ReddevilNO

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 5:55:47 AM
Always Problems>
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molebaby96

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 5:49:51 AM
Eat gulf seafood at your own risk.
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gs7101

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 3:23:55 AM
I'm still not buying or eating seafood from the gulf region.
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Amplion

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 2:07:24 AM
KICK BP OUT OF THE USA !!!!
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WalRus49

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 12:34:03 AM
More organized mayhem and pillage............
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72_Monte

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 12:07:20 AM
I wouldn't eat from the Gulf in my lifetime.
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menagerie1013

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 12:04:17 AM
Well said NHLiveFree. We need to pay more attention to the earth and how humans are screwing it up.
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NHLiveFree

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 11:41:30 PM
Mother Nature "heals all" and the tooth fairy and Tinkerbell are real too. Some here have a truly warped view of our "unsinkable" environment. The Gulf oysters noted in this article are not doing better and will not magically heal themselves. We should all be viewing ourselves as good stewards to the Earth and treating all life with the respect and care that is deserved.
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jetskijerry

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 11:36:05 PM
I miss my oysters.
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Beaveronparade

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 11:34:28 PM
I'm sure they are long lasting effects that are not even known yet. The whole thing was horrible & generations will pay I'm sure. Very sad.
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91Hilux

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 11:27:57 PM
Yeah, WE'RE paying for it, and our kids...
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anascom

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 11:24:17 PM
some one has to pay for their fault!
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DrLyon

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 11:12:36 PM
A problem...
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BEGTWO

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 11:10:23 PM
Not good!!!
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ratboy1968

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 11:02:11 PM
ok
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drpepperTX

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 10:56:51 PM
"BP should have been forced to shutdown." =======================
By that logic, I reckon we should shutdown nature as well, after all nature has been killing off life since the dawn of time.
Nature by design is fully capable of recovery in her own way. Small example, look at the 'devastation' (mankinds term) of the 1980 Mount St. Helens eruption. 57 human lives were lost. Triggered by a magnitude 5.1 earthquake, the eruptions lateral blast covered 230 square miles. The Washington State Department of Game estimated nearly 7,000 big game animals (deer, elk and bear) perished as well as all birds and most small mammals. Many burrowing rodents, frogs, salamanders and crawfish, managed to survive because they were below ground level or water surface when the disaster struck.
The Washington Department of Fisheries estimated that 12 million Chinook and Coho salmon fingerlings were killed when hatcheries were destroyed. Another estimated 40,000 young salmon were lost when forced to swim through turbine blades of hydroelectric generators as reservoir levels along the Lewis River were kept low to accommodate possible mudflows and flooding.
The energy released from the event was equal to 24 megatons of thermal energy. Enough timber was wiped out to buil 300,000 homes. The eruption cloud reached 80,000 feet up in 15 minutes, spread across the US IN 3 days and the world in 15.
Detectable amounts of ash covered 23,000 square miles. The eruption dealt a nearly crippling blow to tourism, an important industry in Washington. The ash fall created some temporary but major problems with transportation, sewage disposal, and water treatment systems. Visibility was greatly decreased during the ash fall, closing many highways and roads. Interstate 90 from Seattle to Spokane was closed for a week and a half. Air travel was disrupted for a few days to 2 weeks as several airports in eastern Washington shut down because of ash accumulation and poor visibility. Over a thousand commercial flights were cancelled following airport closures. Fine-grained, gritty ash caused substantial problems for internal-combustion engines and other mechanical and electrical equipment. The ash contaminated oil systems and clogged air filters, and scratched moving surfaces. Fine ash caused short circuits in electrical transformers, which in turn caused power blackouts.
Nature can be a beast too huh?
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hubie24

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 9:56:15 PM
BP should have been forced to shutdown.
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Jeff1944

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 9:23:28 PM
Not surprising given the gravity of the BP spill. Like Alaska, check back in 20-30 years to see the long-term impacts. In the meantime, eat the shrimp and oysters sparingly.
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db60

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 8:40:29 PM
But I don't like oysters.
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esq262

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 8:38:24 PM
The gulf oysters I had tonight were great.
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raj_fl

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 8:38:18 PM
mmmmm here we go again
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pulpwood

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 8:28:34 PM
a lot of reefs around here are dead with oil on the shells still.
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graceman

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 7:30:56 PM
BP strikes again!
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drpepperTX

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 7:27:11 PM
rbrk02, I agree as well, but I have never acquired a taste for oyster anyway.
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carranco

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 7:00:43 PM
Liberal rag.
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rbrk02

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 6:49:00 PM
drpepperTX, some great points made. I agree with you that we do all expect some effects from the spill to linger. VomVom, I also agree with you that I would not eat those oysters either.
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northeast2

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 6:47:05 PM
Oysters are the canary in the coal mine.
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KAR120CSII

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 6:43:36 PM
D**n you BP -- now it's the oysters.
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buckets42

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 6:15:49 PM
Hot gas.
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Wally3023

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 5:49:00 PM
It will get better.
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drpepperTX

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 5:31:09 PM
Interesting that neither The Root or Mother Jones, both well known for their objectivity (LOL), make no mention if there was a baseline study from before the spill. Obviously, we all expect some effects from the spill, but there appears to be a rush of 'studies' two years later attempting to show the 'end of the Gulf' scenarios that just have not happened.
Somehow, oysters have managed to survive millions of barrels of oil naturally seeping into the Gulf for eons. Oysters have survived many, many warming and cooling periods over the eons as well.
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VomVom

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 5:29:04 PM
I wouldn't eat them oyster either.
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bandannaman

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 5:24:11 PM
Not credible.
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dbecks44

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 4:42:31 PM
Lost me at "according to Mother Jones"
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