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RedRider1OK

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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2008 8:08:39 AM

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Not sure about all other non-flexfuel vehicles, but the 2 vehicles I own specifically warrant against using ethanol blends higher than 10%.
?, What are they thinking?



[Edited by: RedRider1OK at 12/18/2008 9:11:15 AM EST]
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E-Squirrel
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2009 6:31:16 PM

Well, in a word, its "greed".

They already have:

1. A federal subsidy for blending.
2. An import tariff to keep foreign competition out.
3. A mandate to require ethanol in nearly every gallon of gasoline sold.

Its not enough. Since they still can't sell enough to be content, they need the government to force you to buy and consume their product.
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blacktop20
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2009 11:06:54 AM

They would sell way more ethanol with e20 how do i know? We sold e10 nd e20 at our station alittle over a year ago. It wasnt even close we sold e20 2 to 1. We had two people that had problems, one being a farmer, a corn farmer! Instead of handling it like a grown man he went straight to the state, they came down sampled it shut us down, no more e20. By the way the samples they took came back 17% ethanol, the dealer he took his car to said it was 60% ethanol. When i called the dealership about 3 months later gave them the same situation they told me they had no way to check to see how much ethanol is in the gas...hmmm? It is because of this deal i will never buy or support ethanol again.
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PbFootNY
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2009 12:52:07 AM

It's just more standard moves from the ethanol playbook. Need consumers? Make the gov't. force more people to buy your inferior product.
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chemist74
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Message Posted: Dec 23, 2008 8:13:11 AM

A lot of vehicles could probably handle 20% ethanol but it has not been proven that all vehicles on the road can handle 20% without damage. Mandating 20% ethanol would make the government liable for any damages it causes.

The U.S. currently can not produce enough ethanol to supply 20% ethanol.

I would prefer that the federal government not mandate ethanol levels at all.
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RedRider1OK
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2008 8:13:47 PM

At least some people can read their owner's manuals and can comprehend the words "up to 10% ethanol". I'm a typical consumer, and don't own any power equipment or vehicle that warrants the use of more than 10% ethanol. So, What are they thinking?

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wdbcab
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2008 2:06:03 AM

We are going to ethanoled, greened, global warminged to the destruction of ourselves if we don't stop this stupid trying to change the world crap.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2008 12:30:39 AM

At least some people have the ability to think.
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